Torture? are you kidding me?

December 20 2007
I would love remarks.

Ok real quick I am just going to give you my opinion on torture, it is fine. I am pro-torture. But I am not going to write about how great torture is I am going to follow the current debate to whether "Waterboarding is Torture, and is torture right or wrong"

    For those of you who don't know waterboarding is what we did to

Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, who is the Al Qaeda number two guy that planned 9/11. Waterboarding is simply  restraining the subject and  placing a rag or cloth over his face and mouth then,  pouring water over him to give him the "sensation of drowning" without actually doing any harm to the subject. 

   Now that you know what waterboarding is let me tell you a little about the people I am talking about in the following paragraph. Nancy is the Speaker of the US House of Represenatives. 3rd in line for President.  Go back to 2002 after the 9/11 attack on America. The CIA breifed Congress on their techniques of obtaining information. The entire Congress including Nacy Pelosi asked if they were doing enough and if they need to use more than just waterboarding, which was one of the things the CIA breifed the Congress on. Congress had no objections to the CIA. Then in 2003 she conccured with a Democratic colleague in a letter to the CIA. Now one of the senators says "I don't want the United States to engage in the type of torture that [Senator] John McCain had to endure." John McCain went through waterboarding back in Vietnam. So now I have to ask does Congress have any idea what they want or where the heck they stand?

John McCain went through what every American Special Forces team must go through to complete training. A school called SERE training. SERE stands for Survival, Evasion, Resistance and Escape. You are trained to Survive the torture that the enemy does. Waterboarding is only one tactic they learn of and survive in SERE school. They are taught this in extreme forms though. They are trained as if they were captured by the most feared and ruthless war lord there is. They do this to simulate what will really happen if captured. And that is what happend to John McCain. He was captured and went through torture such as waterboarding. Now the enemy and Al Qaeda are exercising much worse Techniques of torture. Cutting off our military men's heads and sending to their families. Torture using electic tools to shock subjects while covered in water. Now these things are used to invoke fear, and hardly to gain information. So how can you say that when we are doing it to save people that it is wrong? Not forgetting the training out men go through to ensure that they can protect us is far worse then the waterboarding that Khalid Sheikh went through. 

    Sure the vidoes were destroyed but does it really matter? Do you really care what the CIA is doing to protect you? As long as you are safe right? It is the same arguement of should priviate citizens be allowed to own a gun? We have to right to own a gun first for the protection of an uprising governement and second to protect ourselves. So if you are mad about the CIA protecting us then why do you have a gun? Ok say you don't have a gun. Then you rely completly on what our military does for that protection. Say that you don't have a gun and we did not get information form the Al Qaeda members. Say that they went through with their plans because we did not torture one person. Now Al Qaeda is in America the priviate citizens don't have weapons and we don't know how to stop Al Qaeda from taking over America because we are a Nation that doesn't believe in a little pain to protect their people. I believe in a don't ask don't tell policy. I am fine with whatever the governement does to protect us. If it legitmitly protects us and not knowing about it. As far as I am concered they could have played russian roulette with the man to get information. If the bullet lands on him then that is one less Al Qaeda member we have to worry about. If it lands on us then he died in service and deserves a proper funeral, flag folded 21 gun salute and the whole shabang. (Russian Roulette is taking a revolver and putting a bullet in one chamber spinning the cylinder so the bullets location is unknown and taking turs with the gun to eachothers head pulling the triger)      

      Ok so those are some of the facts now let me ask you some questions and give you some personal  opinion, sound good? Good.

So are we not able to trust the people who are trying to protect us any more? We must question what they do to save American lives? It is a fact that the information the CIA recieved from  Khalid Sheikh Mohammed did save many American lives. So let me ask you do you think hurting someone is wrong if you save someone else? Do you think that a little water in the mouth and lungs that burns some is bad if you save your best friend, spouse or brother? Is waterboarding torture, maybe, but the fact is, is that it helped people live. I told you before I am pro-tortue, I say do what you have to do to help people live. Is that not what a doctor does? He may do something that hurts a little but you better believe he is doing what is best for you in the long run. So what do you think. Are you going to stand with the majority because there are more people on that side, or are you going to stand up for what you truly believe in. Don't pull a Nacy, don't say you are for torture just because I am, don't say you are against torture because now Congress debates it. It is all about personal convections. Because you are the only person that you have to live with forever. 

Kaelynn Malugin

December 20 2007
uhm oh my gosh.... wowman.

At the Crossroads of Life

December 20 2007
Well, I'm just going to start off by saying that I did enjoy reading this thought. It had a lot to offer and a lot to tell and express. I'm not against torture, but I don't support it either. I say that if it will keep someone safe and the torture is REASONABLE, then it's probably for the best in the long run. What our government is doing is no where near as bad as what our enemies are doing... In that particular case, I don't mind them simulating a near death experience while our enemies are ACTUALLY killing people. But of course, that's just what I think.