Jonathan Wood
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In A Relationship
Highschool
Central Baptist School
Interests
Brittany, music, theology, philosophy
Favorite Music
I will listen to anything and everything but most rap
Favorite Movies
The Godfather Trilogy, Mission: Impossible, Unbreakable, A Beautiful Mind, The Departed
Favorite Books
Heart of Darkness, the Bible
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http://clean.i8.com
Calvinism is not stupid
February 11 2007
Sorry...usually I don't get too irritated by people who are irrational about certain religious belief structures, but there is one that kind of got to me - a post saying, simply, that Calvinism is stupid.
Calvinism, being an organized structure of ideas, can not be stupid. Either (a) the ideas are stupid, or (b) Calvinists are stupid, but never (c) Calvinism is stupid.
(a) the ideas are stupid - the ideas contained in Calvinism are some of the most logical and Biblically-supported religious ideas we have today. Many of the greatest theological minds agreed with many or all of the tenets of Calvinism (like, say, John Calvin, John Wycliffe, Martin Luther, etc.). To say that these ideas are stupid is to say that the scriptures from which they were derived are stupid. Now, if someone says that the Bible is stupid, then that's their own thing; this, however, is not the case with this monologue. I am directing this at a Bible-believing Christian (whether or not you are one is irrelevant; I'm simply not writing to you). So, either the Bible is stupid or Calvinists are stupid. I'm going to assume that it would be decided that the Bible is not stupid.
(b) Calvinists are stupid - I'm sorry...what? The tenets of Calvinism are supported with more or less strength by exegetical study of the Bible. The tenets of Armenianism (the relative opposite of Calvinism) are not - they are derived from eisegetical viewpoints. If you'd like a Biblical discussion, I'm fully open to that; I haven't had one in a good while. Otherwise, don't even try pulling this one; I'll flat out tell you that Calvinists are not stupid. Not to say that some aren't...I know a few stupid Calvinists, and I know some brilliant ones. 'Nuff said.
(c) Calvinism is stupid - as outlined above, no.
That's all I've got for now. It's 3:30 am, and I've got church in a few hours.
Calvinism, being an organized structure of ideas, can not be stupid. Either (a) the ideas are stupid, or (b) Calvinists are stupid, but never (c) Calvinism is stupid.
(a) the ideas are stupid - the ideas contained in Calvinism are some of the most logical and Biblically-supported religious ideas we have today. Many of the greatest theological minds agreed with many or all of the tenets of Calvinism (like, say, John Calvin, John Wycliffe, Martin Luther, etc.). To say that these ideas are stupid is to say that the scriptures from which they were derived are stupid. Now, if someone says that the Bible is stupid, then that's their own thing; this, however, is not the case with this monologue. I am directing this at a Bible-believing Christian (whether or not you are one is irrelevant; I'm simply not writing to you). So, either the Bible is stupid or Calvinists are stupid. I'm going to assume that it would be decided that the Bible is not stupid.
(b) Calvinists are stupid - I'm sorry...what? The tenets of Calvinism are supported with more or less strength by exegetical study of the Bible. The tenets of Armenianism (the relative opposite of Calvinism) are not - they are derived from eisegetical viewpoints. If you'd like a Biblical discussion, I'm fully open to that; I haven't had one in a good while. Otherwise, don't even try pulling this one; I'll flat out tell you that Calvinists are not stupid. Not to say that some aren't...I know a few stupid Calvinists, and I know some brilliant ones. 'Nuff said.
(c) Calvinism is stupid - as outlined above, no.
That's all I've got for now. It's 3:30 am, and I've got church in a few hours.
36_Thoughtless
February 11 2007
"To say that these ideas are stupid is to say that the scriptures from which they were derived are stupid."
Wow, that was a great argument.